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[#2784769] 21.07.19 08:10
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Julija....Lep dan.
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[#2784770] 21.07.19 08:26
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V Slovenji pa imamo spet vrste v trgovinah...
Krožno gospodarstvo pod rdečo zvedzo.
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[#2784832] 21.07.19 17:56 · odgovor na: alek14 (#2784770)
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TOČNO to, kar si volilci želijo....
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[#2785028] 22.07.19 18:58 · odgovor na: rx170 (#2784853)
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PAZI VIR !!!

The Moscow Times!

Elon Musk Is Squeezing Russia Out of Launchers Market, Space Chief Says

Elon Musk Is Squeezing Russia Out of Launchers Market, Space Chief ...
www.themoscowtimes.c...rs-market-
Oct 2, 2018 - SpaceX has upended the space industry with its relatively low-cost Falcon 9 rockets. The company has completed ... Russia vs. Elon Musk: U.S. ...

Ko stestira še kapsulo za posadko, je game over.....

Pa NE preveč jokat.
rx170 sporočil: 4.253
[#2785035] 22.07.19 19:30 · odgovor na: PyotrNovak (#2785028)
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[PyotrNovak]
PAZI VIR !!!

The Moscow Times!

Elon Musk Is Squeezing Russia Out of Launchers Market, Space Chief Says

Elon Musk Is Squeezing Russia Out of Launchers Market, Space Chief ...
www.themoscowtimes.c...rs-market-
Oct 2, 2018 - SpaceX has upended the space industry with its relatively low-cost Falcon 9 rockets. The company has completed ... Russia vs. Elon Musk: U.S. ...

Ko stestira še kapsulo za posadko, je game over.....

Pa NE preveč joka
rx170 sporočil: 4.253
[#2785040] 22.07.19 19:48 · odgovor na: PyotrNovak (#2785028)
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[PyotrNovak]
PAZI VIR !!!

The Moscow Times!

Elon Musk Is Squeezing Russia Out of Launchers Market, Space Chief Says

Elon Musk Is Squeezing Russia Out of Launchers Market, Space Chief ...
www.themoscowtimes.c...rs-market-
Oct 2, 2018 - SpaceX has upended the space industry with its relatively low-cost Falcon 9 rockets. The company has completed ... Russia vs. Elon Musk: U.S. ...

Ko stestira še kapsulo za posadko, je game over.....

Pa NE preveč joka

MT je isti shit kot CNN. Isto so pisali leta 1991 pa Soyuzi še vedno letijo.
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[#2785188] 23.07.19 17:35 · odgovor na: rx170 (#2785040)
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PS KDO ima danes namočnejšo raketo? In KDO EDINI ima reusable prve stopnje in s tem nedosegljivo cenovno prednost?
Saj zastopiš da te moram malo živcirat, a ne?
rx170 sporočil: 4.253
[#2785190] 23.07.19 17:44 · odgovor na: PyotrNovak (#2785188)
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[PyotrNovak]
PS KDO ima danes namočnejšo raketo? In KDO EDINI ima reusable prve stopnje in s tem nedosegljivo cenovno prednost?
Saj zastopiš da te moram malo živcirat, a ne?
Nič nimam proti SPace X, pišem o Soyuzih. Trenutno je še vedno tako, da Amiji brez Soyuza ne morejo nikamor. Kako se bo izkazal SPace X s človeško posadko pa bomo še videli.

www.forbes.com/sites...s-in-2019/
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[#2785195] 23.07.19 17:58 · odgovor na: rx170 (#2785190)
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Verjemi mi ODLIČNO in CENEJŠE od rusov.
Veš tole s tabo je tako kot z otrokom v peskovniku: VEŠ da rusi danes nimajo niti za burek, pa še vedno goniš svojo. No, če se bolje počutiš....

Se mi ne da iskati, toda vodilni rus je enostavno izjavil, da nimajo dovolj denarja za razvoj nove rakete in priznal da jih je Musk povozil.
Brutalna resnica je dejstvo, da je Ruski GDP enaostavno premajhen - nekje kot Španija. Pa če se na glavo postaviš. ;))))

Putinova oligarhija pač NE prinaša resnično močne Rusije, ki sicer ima ZELO velik potencial, toda VEDNO dobi različne norce in lopove za vodje.
Z izjemo par, daleč v zgodovini nazaj. Žal. Tudi mene ne bi motila močna, stabilna in uspešna Rusija. Posebej sedaj ko so Nemci na dobri poti da razjebejo sicer dobro idejo EU.
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[#2785199] 23.07.19 18:04 · odgovor na: PyotrNovak (#2785195)
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Zadnja sprememba: rx170 23.07.2019 18:06
[PyotrNovak]
Verjemi mi ODLIČNO in CENEJŠE od rusov.
Veš tole s tabo je tako kot z otrokom v peskovniku: VEŠ da rusi danes nimajo niti za burek, pa še vedno goniš svojo. No, če se bolje počutiš....

Se mi ne da iskati, toda vodilni rus je enostavno izjavil, da nimajo dovolj denarja za razvoj nove rakete in priznal da jih je Musk povozil.
Brutalna resnica je dejstvo, da je Ruski GDP enaostavno premajhen - nekje kot Španija. Pa če se na glavo postaviš. ;))))

Putinova oligarhija pač NE prinaša resnično močne Rusije, ki sicer ima ZELO velik potencial, toda VEDNO dobi različne norce in lopove za vodje.
Z izjemo par, daleč v zgodovini nazaj. Žal. Tudi mene ne bi motila močna, stabilna in uspešna Rusija. Posebej sedaj ko so Nemci na dobri poti da razjebejo sicer dobro idejo EU.
Ne zanikam, da imajo Rusi svoje probleme vendar trenutno oni lahko letijo v vesolje, Američani pa bodo najemali Space X (seveda pa ne sme eksplodirati).

Putin je pa pač, ker so se demokratične alternative izkazale za še precej slabše. Dovolj je, če pogledamo v Ukrajino ali v čas Jelcina.

www.theverge.com/201...ragon-test
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[#2785210] 23.07.19 19:51 · odgovor na: rx170 (#2785199)
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OK I give up. Sicer ima SpaceX pri raketah nedosegljivo prednost, po besedah ruskega šefa, nedosegljivo ceno, največjo raketo na trgu, TODA rusi so še VEDNO najboljši.
Čeprav so sami rusi malček drugačnega mišljenja. KVA PA ZDJ???

Look, if we compare the ships on a technological level, our Soyuz is in principle unable to compete with the SpaceX’s Crew Dragon. This is because our Soyuz was ideologically built in the 1960s by Sergei Pavlovich Korolev. Even having undergone a lot of modification, it is still flying to this day. It is reliable and its bugs have all been worked out. But it has become an unreliable ship in principle. Even when the Chinese built their ship, “Heavenly Vessel” (Shenzhou)—a pretty name—on the basis of our Soyuz, they rebuilt the entire article. In the first place, [the Chinese ship] is bigger. Secondly, their habitation module is a completely independent vehicle, able to undock and fly for up to a month on its own. As to the re-entry module, theirs is larger, more reliable, and less crowded than ours and so forth.

But Elon Musk has built the ship of the future. It’s a seven-place spacecraft. It is re-usable. It is new technology. Accordingly, it beats Soyuz according to every parameter, by every technological indicator. It only needs to prove its usefulness for manned space launches, and then in July it will make its first manned flight. Musk will not only take away from Roscosmos… Transporting foreign astronauts [on Soyuz] to the ISS is ending. Each year we (Russia) received about $400 million, and now that will end. We will be forced by this, most likely, to carry tourists, but Musk will be able to offer lower prices to tourists as well, and he has a ship with seven seats. So what are we even talking about?
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[#2785229] 23.07.19 21:46 · odgovor na: PyotrNovak (#2785210)
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[PyotrNovak]
OK I give up. Sicer ima SpaceX pri raketah nedosegljivo prednost, po besedah ruskega šefa, nedosegljivo ceno, največjo raketo na trgu, TODA rusi so še VEDNO najboljši.
Čeprav so sami rusi malček drugačnega mišljenja. KVA PA ZDJ???

Look, if we compare the ships on a technological level, our Soyuz is in principle unable to compete with the SpaceX’s Crew Dragon. This is because our Soyuz was ideologically built in the 1960s by Sergei Pavlovich Korolev. Even having undergone a lot of modification, it is still flying to this day. It is reliable and its bugs have all been worked out. But it has become an unreliable ship in principle. Even when the Chinese built their ship, “Heavenly Vessel” (Shenzhou)—a pretty name—on the basis of our Soyuz, they rebuilt the entire article. In the first place, [the Chinese ship] is bigger. Secondly, their habitation module is a completely independent vehicle, able to undock and fly for up to a month on its own. As to the re-entry module, theirs is larger, more reliable, and less crowded than ours and so forth.

But Elon Musk has built the ship of the future. It’s a seven-place spacecraft. It is re-usable. It is new technology. Accordingly, it beats Soyuz according to every parameter, by every technological indicator. It only needs to prove its usefulness for manned space launches, and then in July it will make its first manned flight. Musk will not only take away from Roscosmos… Transporting foreign astronauts [on Soyuz] to the ISS is ending. Each year we (Russia) received about $400 million, and now that will end. We will be forced by this, most likely, to carry tourists, but Musk will be able to offer lower prices to tourists as well, and he has a ship with seven seats. So what are we even talking about?
Nikjer nisem napisal, da so Rusi v čemerkoli najboljši ampak zgolj, da SOYUZ kljub starosti še vedno leti in je trenutno edini, ki dostavlja ljudi v orbito (in to je dejstvo). Ko space capsule ne bo več eksplodiral, bo pa morda tako kot pišeš ti. Za Ruse pa se jaz ne bojim, oni so dali skozi še vsaj kaj hujšega kot space capsule.
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[#2785236] 23.07.19 23:23 · odgovor na: rx170 (#2785229)
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Zato so kot za pravega levaka DEJSTVA popolnoma irelevantna, a ne?
Arhiviram in ti posolim ko bo SX rešil še tale problemček.

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