When you get the offer you can't refuse?
You accept it. ;))

Zamenjati pijandure in nore krave, sparkirat vse nore ideje za najmanj 20 let v shrambo, pljunit v roke, pustit nas da delamo, POTEM pa se lahko enakopravno pogovarjamo.

Saj vem, saj vem, sanjam pa lahko, a ne?

EU se drzi pregovora: After all was said and done, much more was sasid than done.

Na naso skupno zalost.

Tako pa lahko EU samo PONOSNO in ODLOCNO popusti vecini US zahtev.

[PyotrNovak]
When you get the offer you can't refuse?
You accept it. ;))

Zamenjati pijandure in nore krave, sparkirat vse nore ideje za najmanj 20 let v shrambo, pljunit v roke, pustit nas da delamo, POTEM pa se lahko enakopravno pogovarjamo.

Saj vem, saj vem, sanjam pa lahko, a ne?

EU se drzi pregovora: After all was said and done, much more was sasid than done.

Na naso skupno zalost.

Te jezi ker so orangutana scat peljali?

Sure.
Samo balkanci proslavljajo poraze kot zmage. Dobro vzdrzujes tradicijo.

[PyotrNovak]
Sure.
Samo balkanci proslavljajo poraze kot zmage. Dobro vzdrzujes tradicijo.

kak poraz?

Ce se motim je juncker pristal na pogoje ne obratno?
Ah, STA. Oprosti.

[PyotrNovak]
Ce se motim je juncker pristal na pogoje ne obratno?
Ah, STA. Oprosti.

Mr. Juncker said, “I had the intention to make a deal today, and we have made a deal today.”

In ta deal je bil da bo enkrat deal...

Dober komentar na Bloombergu:

Trump needed a deal, but it’s the European Commission president who exceeded expectations.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker proved on Wednesday that the EU isn’t the useless bunch of bureaucrats populists and nationalists make it out to be. He came to Washington with a bridge to sell, and in three hours of talks he sold it to Trump.

The joint statement Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump signed hints at what the bargaining was about. The parties agreed “to work together toward zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods” (translation: tariffs on cars, the major sticking point in U.S.-EU trade relations under Trump, will not be touched) and to “reduce barriers and increase trade in services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products, as well as soybeans” (translation: the EU will keep its trade barriers against U.S. agricultural imports but is happy to buy more soybeans).

Juncker je Trumpa lulat peljal. Za crknit smešno.

[COP]
Dober komentar na Bloombergu:

Trump needed a deal, but it’s the European Commission president who exceeded expectations.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker proved on Wednesday that the EU isn’t the useless bunch of bureaucrats populists and nationalists make it out to be. He came to Washington with a bridge to sell, and in three hours of talks he sold it to Trump.

The joint statement Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump signed hints at what the bargaining was about. The parties agreed “to work together toward zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods” (translation: tariffs on cars, the major sticking point in U.S.-EU trade relations under Trump, will not be touched) and to “reduce barriers and increase trade in services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products, as well as soybeans” (translation: the EU will keep its trade barriers against U.S. agricultural imports but is happy to buy more soybeans).

Juncker je Trumpa lulat peljal. Za crknit smešno.

Ne tega pisat, bo Pyotr čist popizdu

[COP]
Dober komentar na Bloombergu:

Trump needed a deal, but it’s the European Commission president who exceeded expectations.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker proved on Wednesday that the EU isn’t the useless bunch of bureaucrats populists and nationalists make it out to be. He came to Washington with a bridge to sell, and in three hours of talks he sold it to Trump.

The joint statement Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump signed hints at what the bargaining was about. The parties agreed “to work together toward zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods” (translation: tariffs on cars, the major sticking point in U.S.-EU trade relations under Trump, will not be touched) and to “reduce barriers and increase trade in services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products, as well as soybeans” (translation: the EU will keep its trade barriers against U.S. agricultural imports but is happy to buy more soybeans).

Juncker je Trumpa lulat peljal. Za crknit smešno.

Jap. Juncker ni bedak, samo pijanec pac. Trump pa je bedak, ceprav ne pije.

Agriculture: Juncker told Trump he doesn’t have a mandate to talk farming — with the notable exception of soybeans. That’s important for Trump because prices for American soybeans have recently tanked as a result of China’s tariffs, imposed in response to the U.S. trade war. The EU has zero tariffs for soy in place, and European farmers are now eagerly buying up cheap soy from the Midwest. What could go wrong, other than the Commission canteen having to adapt its menu?

Gas: The EU also has zero tariffs in place for imports of American liquefied natural gas. Juncker promised Trump that the EU would invest in new LNG terminals. In truth, this is also already happening, part of the long-established Juncker Plan and the EU’s strategy to diversify away from dependence on Russia. And while LNG from the U.S. isn’t currently competitive price-wise, the market price of natural gas has gone up recently. But there is one hurdle: American red tape, which prohibits selling to partners without having a trade agreement in place. One EU official told us this was brought up in the meeting.

Medical devices: Wondering why these were mentioned in the joint EU-U.S. statement? Juncker offered to aim for common standards. The fact that no such common standards exist, which acts as a trade barrier, was brought to Trump’s attention during Dutch PM Mark Rutte’s recent visit to Washington (he was accompanied by Philips CEO Frans van Houten).

Bottom line: To get what he wanted, Juncker promised Trump things that have already happened. Expect some noise from France (on agricultural products) and Germany (on gas), and perhaps some murmurings about the fact that Trump didn’t unconditionally surrender, but chalk this one up as a Juncker victory.

(politico.eu brux playbook)

[crt]
Agriculture: Juncker told Trump he doesn’t have a mandate to talk farming — with the notable exception of soybeans. That’s important for Trump because prices for American soybeans have recently tanked as a result of China’s tariffs, imposed in response to the U.S. trade war. The EU has zero tariffs for soy in place, and European farmers are now eagerly buying up cheap soy from the Midwest. What could go wrong, other than the Commission canteen having to adapt its menu?

Gas: The EU also has zero tariffs in place for imports of American liquefied natural gas. Juncker promised Trump that the EU would invest in new LNG terminals. In truth, this is also already happening, part of the long-established Juncker Plan and the EU’s strategy to diversify away from dependence on Russia. And while LNG from the U.S. isn’t currently competitive price-wise, the market price of natural gas has gone up recently. But there is one hurdle: American red tape, which prohibits selling to partners without having a trade agreement in place. One EU official told us this was brought up in the meeting.

Medical devices: Wondering why these were mentioned in the joint EU-U.S. statement? Juncker offered to aim for common standards. The fact that no such common standards exist, which acts as a trade barrier, was brought to Trump’s attention during Dutch PM Mark Rutte’s recent visit to Washington (he was accompanied by Philips CEO Frans van Houten).

Bottom line: To get what he wanted, Juncker promised Trump things that have already happened. Expect some noise from France (on agricultural products) and Germany (on gas), and perhaps some murmurings about the fact that Trump didn’t unconditionally surrender, but chalk this one up as a Juncker victory.

(politico.eu brux playbook)

Ne objavlaj tega, boš Pyotru pokvaril dopust

[NemirniTujec]
> [COP]
> Dober komentar na Bloombergu:
>
> Trump needed a deal, but it’s the European Commission president who exceeded expectations.
>
> European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker proved on Wednesday that the EU isn’t the useless bunch of bureaucrats populists and nationalists make it out to be. He came to Washington with a bridge to sell, and in three hours of talks he sold it to Trump.
>
> The joint statement Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump signed hints at what the bargaining was about. The parties agreed “to work together toward zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods” (translation: tariffs on cars, the major sticking point in U.S.-EU trade relations under Trump, will not be touched) and to “reduce barriers and increase trade in services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products, as well as soybeans” (translation: the EU will keep its trade barriers against U.S. agricultural imports but is happy to buy more soybeans).
>
> Juncker je Trumpa lulat peljal. Za crknit smešno.

Jap. Juncker ni bedak, samo pijanec pac. Trump pa je bedak, ceprav ne pije.

Čeprav znanstevne raziskave trdijo da alkohol uničuje možganske celice, jaz vedno pravim, da človek tudi če pije je lahko generalno pameten. (pač ne bo programiral mikroprocesorjev, ampak ve kam vodi ladjo).
Po drugi strani pa imaš lahko človeka, ki ne pije, ne kadi in je zgolj vegetarijansko hrano pa kljub temu zakuha svetovno vojno.

[republican]
Iz lastnih izkušenj ti povem, da pijanci v poslu in pogajanjih ponavadi potegnejo kratko.

Enostavno ne gre... tako kot pijača in šport, tudi pijača in posel ne gresta skupaj.

Odvisno v kakšnem sistemu. V SLovenistanu naprimer, je bilo v "boljših" časih naprimer kar nekaj direktojev, ki so že ob 12:00 bili trdi kot hlod (in so jih domov peljali šoferji) , pa so furali miljonske firme, ki takrat niso poslovale slabo*, če razumeš.
www.youtube.com/watc...sYp9q3QNaQ

*ok, je bil socializem boš rekel, ampak ne samo to, bil je tak cajt :)

[republican]
> [vickibedi]
> V SLovenistanu naprimer, je bilo v "boljših" časih naprimer kar nekaj direktojev, ki so že ob 12:00 bili trdi kot hlod (in so jih domov peljali šoferji) , pa so furali miljonske firme, ki takrat niso poslovale slabo*, če razumeš.

Zato so pa šle v maloro ;)

Jaz vodenja firme nikoli ne bi prepustil pijancu... če me razumeš.

Pijan človek enostavno ne more uspešno vodit firme, ker se mu pač jebe za vse... Tako kot pijan športnik ne more zmagat, pa če je še tako dober (kadar je trezen).

Načeloma imaš prav, razen kadar gre za res za velike sisteme (kjer vodja ni športnik, telesno odvisen od svojega načina življenja...).
Churchill naprimer je bil alkoholik in je zmagal v vojni nasproti Hitlerju, ki ni ne pil, ne kadil.
Ok, tudi sreča ima v takšni tekmi nekaj vpliva, ampak sklepanje zavezništev v takšni vlogi je bistvenejše celo od trenutne vojaške premoči..
www.youtube.com/watc...53s4jyCqqU

a to ubogo pijanduro smo poslali, da se bo pogajala. in potem mi hocemo nek razvoj, blaginjo in uspeh? in ta zapita kreatura nam bo vse to prinesla? hik, nazdravje, naj ti tekne , Mr Jean-Cognac Drunker. Bolje biti pijan nego star.

a je pijancek prijel Trumpa za rit ali se mu je oranzni spretno izmaknil?

No, zdaj pa bomo v zameno uvažali gensko spremenjeno sojo. Lepo, da bo le mir, kancerogene soje pač ne jem.

rusi so po pijancu dobili putina, mi bomo najbrz kakega zadrogiranega pripadnika evrokreme.

[shevchenko]
rusi so po pijancu dobili putina, mi bomo najbrz kakega zadrogiranega pripadnika evrokreme.

Ne budali, pijanček se je še dobro zdilal. Nemški pleh je rešen, kaj pa si ti pričakoval, da bodo ameri zastojn dovažali vojna letala in tanke ?

[vickibedi]
No, zdaj pa bomo v zameno uvažali gensko spremenjeno sojo. Lepo, da bo le mir, kancerogene soje pač ne jem.

ne, ti res ne, bos pa jedel zivali, ki jih bodo s kancerogeno sojo pitali dan in noc. pa se klorirane piscance za posladek. ce se kdo ne strinja, lahko mirno postane vegetarijanec ali se bolje pijanec. ce tamanis najdrazje konjake, ni nevarnosti, da pojes kaj rakotvornega. to so vse najkvalitetnejse substance

Ne budali, pijanček se je še dobro zdilal. Nemški pleh je rešen, kaj pa si ti pričakoval, da bodo ameri zastojn dovažali vojna letala in tanke ?

ne, kar doma naj si drzijo svoj star odsluzen pleh

Jean-Claude Juncker: 'When it becomes serious, you have to lie'

[shevchenko]
> [vickibedi]
> No, zdaj pa bomo v zameno uvažali gensko spremenjeno sojo. Lepo, da bo le mir, kancerogene soje pač ne jem.

ne, ti res ne, bos pa jedel zivali, ki jih bodo s kancerogeno sojo pitali dan in noc. pa se klorirane piscance za posladek. ce se kdo ne strinja, lahko mirno postane vegetarijanec ali se bolje pijanec. ce tamanis najdrazje konjake, ni nevarnosti, da pojes kaj rakotvornega. to so vse najkvalitetnejse substance

Kaj pa misliš da zdaj ješ ? Piščance iz baterijske reje in krave, krmljene z briketi (ki so narejeni med drugim iz živalskih kadavrov). Osebno sem bolj za top quality gensko spremenjeno* krmo, narejeno po modernih standardih :)

* genske spremembe so naravni proces, ki se dogaja ves čas. Ene so dobre, druge manj, tretje slabe. Narava poskrbi, da tiste boljše preživijo in se ohranjajo naprej, dokler je potrebno. Človek je samo rahlo posegel v ta naravni (božji) koncept in se odločil, da bo določene spremembe pospešil, določene pa zatajil. Ali vemo kam plujemo s tem konceptom ? Ne čisto točno. Ali vemo kam pluje narava ? Še manj.
www.youtube.com/watc...TOKcxIujgE

make hik america hik great hik again hik

[PyotrNovak]
When you get the offer you can't refuse?
You accept it. ;))

Zamenjati pijandure in nore krave, sparkirat vse nore ideje za najmanj 20 let v shrambo, pljunit v roke, pustit nas da delamo, POTEM pa se lahko enakopravno pogovarjamo.

Saj vem, saj vem, sanjam pa lahko, a ne?

EU se drzi pregovora: After all was said and done, much more was sasid than done.

Na naso skupno zalost.

Tako pa lahko EU samo PONOSNO in ODLOCNO popusti vecini US zahtev.

Z izjemo da bo EU (Nemčija) še naprej uvažala cenejši Ruski plin. In izvažala še naprej nemški pleh v USA pod enakimi pogoji ;) Who is winner here ?
AJ SKRIM JU SKRIM, WE ALL SKRIM FOR AJSKIRIM :)

ZDA in EU povezujeta več kot 830 milijonov državljanov in skupaj ustvarita preko 50 % globalnega BDP-ja. S skupnimi močmi lahko ustvarimo boljši, varnejši in bogatejši planet.

To pa ja, to je še vedno naravno zavezništvo. Trump zganja šov, ammpak on sploh nima nobenih argumentov, da bi oslabil to zvezo. Govorimo v obojestransko korist. Jebe se meni za njegovo volilno bazo in ruske špijone, ki so ga postavili na oblast. On preprosto nima nobenih vsebinskih argumentov za razkol tega zavezništva.