Zdaj pa bo mir, če so tako rekli premierji treh velikih in močnih držav...:)))

No vsaj toliko pameti ima nas JJ da ni zacel s kakimi sankcijami groziti. Ceprav tud taki sestanki ne vem kolk je to pametno vplivati ne morejo tako rekoc nic lahk pa nas na piko dobi ruski medo.

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Koga bi volili, če bi bile parlamentarne volitve to nedeljo?

Odgovor Glasov Odstotek
Janeza Janšo, SDS 1394 42.67%
Boruta Pahorja, SD 476 14.57%
Andreja Bajuka, NSi 92 2.82%
Gregorja Golobiča, Zares 485 14.85%
Katarino Kresal, LDS 195 5.97%
Zmaga Jelinčiča, SNS 150 4.59%
Bojana Šrota, SLS 43 1.32%
Saša Pečeta, Lipa 80 2.45%
Karla Erjavca, DeSUS 95 2.91%
Še ne vem 257 7.87%
SKUPAJ 3267 100.00%

www.finance.si/polls...26&vzoom=1

Kdo ima boljšo ekipo za prihodnjo vlado

Odgovor Glasov Odstotek
Pahor 27 15.52%
Janša 147 84.48%
SKUPAJ 174 100.00%

www.finance.si/polls...28&vzoom=1

Kdo ima boljšo ekipo za prihodnjo vlado

Odgovor Glasov Odstotek
Pahor 27 15.52%
Janša 147 84.48%
SKUPAJ 174 100.00%

www.finance.si/polls...28&vzoom=1

Pa,pa,pa,pa pa PAHOR IN LEVIČARJI ...........

te7ran je napisal(a):
Pa,pa,pa,pa pa PAHOR IN LEVIČARJI ...........

..Je! Še navadne on-line ankete ne znajo nafilati s glasovi.. Dol z neumno opozicijo!

Imaš prav in oni mislijo da bi prevzeli oblast. Sanje , oziroma sanja svinja kukuruz !

bhorva25 - pa vidim da je zopet na delu. Tip mora biti dobro plačan da gara še v nedeljo.

Samo majhen drobec v dopolnitev "evropskemu" razmišljanju:
at left: Did the Bush administration green light Georgia’s attack on Ossetia? The issue deserves a special hearing in Congress, according to Pat Buchanan.

The Role of Israel in the Georgian War

By Brian Harring

Georgia became a huge source of income, and military advantage, for the Israeli government and Israeli arms dealers.. Israel began selling arms to Georgia about seven years ago, following an initiative by Georgian citizens who immigrated to Israel and became weapons hustlers.

They contacted Israeli defense industry officials and arms dealers and told them that Georgia had relatively large budgets, mostly American grants, and could be interested in purchasing Israeli weapons.

The military cooperation between the countries developed swiftly. The fact that Georgia’s defense minister, Davit Kezerashvili, is a former Israeli who is fluent in Hebrew contributed to this cooperation. “We are now in a fight against the great Russia,” he said, “and our hope is to receive assistance from the White House, because Georgia cannot survive on its own. “

Kezerashvili’s door was always open to the Israelis who came and offered his country arms systems made in Israel. Compared to countries in Eastern Europe, the deals in this country were conducted fast, mainly due to the pro-Israeli defense minister’s personal involvement.

The Jerusalem Post on August 12, 2008 reported: “Georgian Prime Minister Vladimer (Lado) Gurgenidze(Jewish) made a special call to Israel Tuesday morning to receive a blessing from one of the Haredi community’s most important rabbis and spiritual leaders, Rabbi Aharon Leib Steinman.” The Prime Minister of Georgia, principally a nation of Orthodox Christians called Rabbi Steinman saying ‘I’ve heard he is a holy man. I want him to pray for us and our state.’

Among the Israelis who took advantage of the opportunity and began doing business in Georgia were former Minister Roni Milo and his brother Shlomo, former director-general of the Military Industries, Brigadier-General (Res.) Gal Hirsch and Major-General (Res.) Yisrael Ziv.

Roni Milo conducted business in Georgia for Elbit Systems and the Military Industries, and with his help Israel’s defense industries managed to sell to Georgia remote-piloted vehicles (RPVs), automatic turrets for armored vehicles, antiaircraft systems, communication systems, shells and rockets.

The Ministry of Defense of Israel had supplied the Georgian government their Hermes 450 UAV spy drones, made by Elbit Maarahot Systems Ltd, for use, under the strict control of Israeli intelligence units, to conduct intelligence-gathering flights over southern Russia and, most especially into a Iran, targeted for Israeli Air Force attacks in the near future.

Two airfields in southern Georgia had been earmarked for the use of Israeli military aircraft, intended to launch an attack on identified targets relating to Iranian atomic energy projects. This attack was approved by President Bush in an undertaking with the government of Israel signed in Washington, D.C., on July 4, 2006.

The thrust of this top secret agreement was that the Israeli government would have “free and unfettered use” of unspecified Georgian airfields, under American control, onto which they could ferry fighter-bombers which then could fly south, over Turkish territory (and with clandestine Turkish permission) to strike at Tehran. The distance from Georgia to Tehran is obviously far less than from Tel Aviv.

No one expected that these attacks would completely destroy Iranian military or scientific targets, but there would be the element of complete surprise coupled with serious property damage which might well interdict future Iranian atomic development and certainly serve as a serious warning to Iran not to threaten Israel again. Using Georgian bases, with the consent and full assistance of, the United States, would make such an attack much more feasible that attempting to fly from Israeli bases with overflights that might have serious regional diplomatic consequences.

Now, thanks to the irrational actions of the thoroughly unstable Georgian president, all of these schemes have collapsed and it is now believed that the Russian special forces have captured, intact, a number of the Israeli drones and, far more important, their radio controlling equipment.

In the main, Israeli military and intelligence units stationed in Georgia were mostly composed of Israel Defense Force reservists working for Global CST, owned by Maj. Gen. Israel Ziv, and Defense Shield, owned by Brig. Gen. Gal Hirsch. “The Israelis should be proud of themselves for the Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers,” Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili.

By this manner, Israel could claim that it had a very small number of IDF people in Georgia “mainly connected with our Embassy in Tiblisi.” The Russians, however, were not fooled by this and their own intelligence had pinpointed Israeli surveillance bases and when they went after the Georgians who invaded South Ossetia, units of the Russian air force bombed the Israeli bases in central Georgia and in the area of the capital, Tbilisi. They also severely damaged the runways and service areas of the two Georgian airbases designed to launch Israeli sir force units in a sudden attack on Iran.

Israel is currently a part of the Anglo-American military axis, which cooperates with the interests of the Western oil giants in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Israel is a partner in the Baku-Tblisi- Ceyhan pipeline which brings oil and gas to the Eastern Mediterranean. More than 20 percent of Israeli oil is imported from Azerbaijan, of which a large share transits through the BTC pipeline. Controlled by British Petroleum, the BTC pipeline has dramatically changed the geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean and the Caucusus:

“[The BTC pipeline] considerably changes the status of the region’s countries and cements a new pro-West alliance. Having taken the pipeline to the Mediterranean, Washington has practically set up a new bloc with Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey and Israel, ” (Komerzant, Moscow, 14 July 2006)

While the official reports state that the BTC pipeline will “channel oil to Western markets”, what is rarely acknowledged is that part of the oil from the Caspian sea would be directly channeled towards Israel, via Georgia. In this regard, a Israeli-Turkish pipeline project has also been envisaged which would link Ceyhan to the Israeli port of Ashkelon and from there through Israel’s main pipeline system, to the Red Sea.

The objective of Israel is not only to acquire Caspian sea oil for its own consumption needs but also to play a key role in re-exporting Caspian sea oil back to the Asian markets through the Red Sea port of Eilat. The strategic implications of this re-routing of Caspian sea oil are far-reaching

What has been planned, is to link the BTC pipeline to the Trans-Israel Eilat-Ashkelon pipeline, also known as Israel’s Tipline, from Ceyhan to the Israeli port of Ashkelon.


Article Source: TBRNews.org

Če je pol od tega kar si copy-pastal res, imajo Izraelci vso pravico gruzijskega predsednika (dokler je še) križati. Uničil jim je načrte po dolgem in počez.

0219K21 je napisal(a):
Če je pol od tega kar si copy-pastal res, imajo Izraelci vso pravico gruzijskega predsednika (dokler je še) križati. Uničil jim je načrte po dolgem in počez.

 
Mislim, da je potrebno samo Gruzincem prepustiti, da se tega NORCA čimprej rešijo in bodo prav gotovo to storili. Ta bedak je napravil strahotno škodo Gruziji ob tem ko je neposredno osebno odgovoren za tragedijo več kot sto tisoč ljudi z veliko mertvimi na obeh stranek ter za veliko materilano škodo in razdejanje tako v Osetiji kot v ožji Griziji. Seveda se bodo gadje iz ozadja izvlekli, vendar ga bodo hoteli na vse načine izrabljati dokler bo mogoče Če še ne verjameš v peklensko delovanje močnega judoizraelskega - cionističnega lobija, ti svetujem, da se v ta DEJSTVA sistematično poglobiš in boš veliko stvari mnogo lažje razumel in spremljal.
Lp, M.S.

starmar6 je napisal(a):


Mislim, da je potrebno samo Gruzincem prepustiti, da se tega NORCA čimprej rešijo in bodo prav gotovo to storili. Ta bedak je napravil strahotno škodo Gruziji ob tem ko je neposredno osebno odgovoren za tragedijo več kot sto tisoč ljudi z veliko mertvimi na obeh stranek ter za veliko materilano škodo in razdejanje tako v Osetiji kot v ožji Griziji. Seveda se bodo gadje iz ozadja izvlekli, vendar ga bodo hoteli na vse načine izrabljati dokler bo mogoče Če še ne verjameš v peklensko delovanje močnega judoizraelskega - cionističnega lobija, ti svetujem, da se v ta DEJSTVA sistematično poglobiš in boš veliko stvari mnogo lažje razumel in spremljal.
Lp, M.S.

Geopolitike mi ne razlagat, lepo prosim.

0219K21 je napisal(a):


..Je! Še navadne on-line ankete ne znajo nafilati s glasovi.. Dol z neumno opozicijo!

 
najbrž gre za taktiko, ki se bo 14 dni pred volitvami spremenila, tebe pa na tak način razmišljanja dobila nepripravljenega. Pozorno torej...

starmar6 je napisal(a):

 
Mislim, da je potrebno samo Gruzincem prepustiti, da se tega NORCA čimprej rešijo in bodo prav gotovo to storili. Ta bedak je napravil strahotno škodo Gruziji ob tem ko je neposredno osebno odgovoren za tragedijo več kot sto tisoč ljudi z veliko mertvimi na obeh stranek ter za veliko materilano škodo in razdejanje tako v Osetiji kot v ožji Griziji. Seveda se bodo gadje iz ozadja izvlekli, vendar ga bodo hoteli na vse načine izrabljati dokler bo mogoče Če še ne verjameš v peklensko delovanje močnega judoizraelskega - cionističnega lobija, ti svetujem, da se v ta DEJSTVA sistematično poglobiš in boš veliko stvari mnogo lažje razumel in spremljal.
Lp, M.S.

 Ni le ta ocena. Jih je več. Tudi od drugih. A nam niso znane, znana je le havarija. Menim, da bo moralo priti do sodelovanja in novega razmerja moči - zaradi stabilnosti. Sicer bo svašta!!!!.

bigl je napisal(a):

 Ni le ta ocena. Jih je več. Tudi od drugih. A nam niso znane, znana je le havarija. Menim, da bo moralo priti do sodelovanja in novega razmerja moči - zaradi stabilnosti. Sicer bo svašta!!!!.

 
Se strinjam, da je zadeva zelo kompleksna in mnogoplastna. Vendar menim, da je v vsakem primeru potrebno odstrniti tudi to "prepovedano" tenčico o vplivu judoizraelskega-cionističnega lobija, o katerem  se ne NE sme niti razpravljati. V Ameriki ta tenčica začenaj pokati po vseh šivih čeprav si je ravno Ameriko ta lobi popolnoma podredil in ima  V CELOTI ameriško zunanjo politiko podrejeno specifičnim svojim interesom. Evropa je samo TALEC te "ameriške" zunanje politike, ki sploh ni več "ameriška" in sploh ni v funkciji avtetntičnih ameriških nacionalnih interesih.

Evropa in Rusija 21.stoletja sta naravnost obsojeni VSESTRANSKO sodelovati na vseh področjih v vsesplošno korist in dobro obeh. V nobenem primeru NI potrebno, da je euro-rusko sodelovanje PROTIameriško, nasprotno v dobrobit tudi Amerike in s tem celega sveta v današnjem vedno manjšem globaliziranem svetu. Kaj za božjo voljo je narobe v ugotavljani potrebi po vsestranskem in varnostnem sodelovanju "od Vladivostoka do Vancouvra" ? Judom pa to ne gre v nos, ker se  to ne sklada z njihovimi blodnjami o "judovski supremaciji" po kateri ONI vidijo "svoj CENTER sveta  z Izraelom" in si med drugim na vse kriplje prizadevajo med drugim tudi SPRETI Evropo in Rusijo, in na vse načine izničevati Evropo kot "Evropo". Ta diverzija z Gruzijo je v tej funkciji.
Lp, M.S.