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Permafruit, zavod za zmanjševanje zavrženega sadja, Koper
Davčna številka: 29895316
Matična številka: 7239599000
Datum vpisa: 27. 2. 2017
Oblika: Zavod
Vrsta dejavnosi: Drugje nerazvrščeno izobraževanje, izpopolnjevanje in usposabljanje
Ustanovitelji: Banko Tjaša, Jehart Mihael, Kolar Jure, Šušel Jerneja, Zvonar Marjan
Zastopniki: Banko Tilen, zastopnik, Zvonar Andraž, direktor
Permafruit je patentiran izdelek, ki na naraven in učinkovit način prepreči prehitro zorenje sadja. Blazinica iz zraka veže škodljive pline, ki povzročajo gnitje sadja, ter preprečuje nastanek plesni. Blazinico je potrebno položiti v bližino sadja, ostalo pa bo Permafruit opravil sam!
Permafruit smo razvijali na podlagi raziskav prestižnih Ameriških univerz, za katerega smo v postopku pridobitve patenta.
Biorazgradljivo. Zunanjost iz recikliranih materialov ter vsebino, ki jo lahko stresete na kompost.
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Domena permafruit.si, nosilec: andrazvonar@icloud.com, ustvarjena: 2016-03-16, poteče: 2018-03-16

Večer, april 2015
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Delo, julij 2017
www.delo.si/gospodar...sadja.html
I'm a 19 year old guy that that lives in Europe. I just finished high school and enrolled in computer science faculty.
Here's my story: Last year I joined the entrepreneurial club in my high school. We somehow developed a product that you put next to your fruit and it keeps it fresh for roughly a week longer. We also did market research, planed our sales and marketing tactics, etc. Even at this early stage we and also I personally received a lot of criticism. Our "mentors" that should have helped us stopped attending meetings after the first week. Not even my family believed this would work out.
And then we won the national competition and got a ticket to JA Europe competition in Berlin. People seemed to give even less of a fuck about it. I was finally happy that I'm am not an idiot and our vision is actually sane.
We applied for a patent and started a long preparation for the European competition. Critical information was hard to get. Every week someone discovered a new thing we had to prepare for the competition. A week before the event all the participating teams were put up on their website with their company summary. After a thorough review we decided that we have only a few serious competitors for the award (non of them got an award) and we should get at least 3rd place.
We knew we had something different. What our competitors presented were mostly generic products or with little differentiation, but what we have was something completely unheard of. Which turned out was not an advantage at all (concerning the JA Europe competition). And before leaving I got a healthy dose of envy from random people ("trying to help" and telling me that we will get fucked over by the big guys anyway).
As we arrived in Berlin I could already see the victory as I looked through the window of a hotel that charges 10€ for a day of wifi (fuck park inn). Most teams seemed incompetent with their products that they tried to present as something new. The rules were clear; student run companies are supposed to be for profit organizations yet there was still a plethora of animal rights organizations and such (which was just the top of the iceberg of this confusing competition).
The next day we had a panel interview. We all though it went great. The judges seemed genuinely excited about our product. We answered all of their questions with ease and shook hands. The day after that we put up our stands. Judges came by and even bought our products (which was a rarity at other stands). Numerous "high caliber" guys were really into it and promised to give out product to their friends in the industry. Everyone was excited and singing us the praise (weird right). We were really excited because that evening awards would be given.
We had high expectations for that evening and we were sure we were not just overly optimistic. It was a stressful few hours that led to disappointment. We were beaten by a bottle opener company and a suit bag company. They supposedly won because their product was made out of recycled products and they had a positive impact on society.
I was sure we had a winning idea, but now I don't know anymore. Those big shot guys probably won't come through with their promises and we will be left all by ourselves again, to reinvent the wheel.
We decided to take a week off and clear our minds. I'm slowly coming to peace with it but it still feels worse than getting dumped by my girlfriend. I feel like giving up, but I don't want to. I worked on this for so long and suddenly I seems like it's not worth anything. I don't know what to do and I'm desperate.
I know it's a little long winded, but I really needed to vent.
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> Permafruit je patentiran izdelek, ki na naraven in učinkovit način prepreči prehitro zorenje sadja. Blazinica iz zraka veže škodljive pline, ki povzročajo gnitje sadja, ter preprečuje nastanek plesni. Blazinico je potrebno položiti v bližino sadja, ostalo pa bo Permafruit opravil sam!
> Permafruit smo razvijali na podlagi raziskav prestižnih Ameriških univerz, za katerega smo v postopku pridobitve patenta.
Patent ze obstaja. 2004. Iztekel se bo 2024. Samo ni njihov. Kar pomeni da niso naredili osnovnega iskanja. Ali pa skrivajo kaksno bistveno lastnost produkta (kar ni potrebno, ce so v **postopku** pridobivanja patenta). V primeru, da niso se v postopku pridobivanja patenta, pa ne bi smeli zadeve kazati in razlagati okrog.

Saj razumem da je to lahko trzna nisa. Ne razumem pa nabijanja z izvirnimi idejami in zavajanja novinarjev.

No, novinarjev pa tudi ne razumem. Ce bi naredili nekaj google poizvedb bi se lahko bistveno bolje pripravili na clanek in ekipi postavili prava vprasanja. Npr. kako je vas izdelek razlicen od tegaintega.

Navsezadnje oni patent z isto snovjo, kot jo uporabljajo oni, pade ven kot prvi zadetek.

Njihov patent je zgleda slovenski, navaja kalijev permanganat in vermikulit:

worldwide.espacenet....cale=en_EP

Slovenski patent je, odkar spada slovenija pod EPO, zal slaba sala.

V patentni prijavi, zanimivo, ni naveden patent US2006070523 (A1) ki govori o kalijevem permanganatu in vermikulitu, samo clanki (so pa navedeni patenti, ki nimajo zveze s kalijevim permanganatom).

V svarilo tistim nadebudnim podjetnikom, ki mislite, da bo slovenski patentni urad naredil spodobno delo in vam garantiral da je vas patent res izviren :))

Se izvlecek iz ameriskega patenta:


DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE INVENTION
[0012]
The invention is a composition for absorbing ethylene from a gas stream comprising a support material impregnated with a solution of sodium permanganate.
[0013]
The support material is chosen from various materials which can absorb significant quantities of a sodium permanganate solution and include materials such as diatomaceous earth, natural or synthetic zeolites, Celite, perlite, silica gel, aluminas, mica, magnesium aluminate, aluminosilicate, magnesium silicates, activated carbon, clays, such as bentonite, sepiolite, and attapulgite, vermiculite and mixtures thereof. Preferably the support is selected from materials with a capability of absorbing and holding significant quantities of an aqueous solution of sodium permanganate, preferably at least about 80 percent and more preferably from about 80 percent to about 300 percent, by weight. These materials preferably comprise diatomaceous earth and silica gel. In a more preferred embodiment the support material for the aqueous sodium permanganate solution is diatomaceous earth. Typically, diatomaceous earth can absorb at least its own weight of an aqueous sodium permanganate solution, and preferably up to at least about 130 percent of its weight of an aqueous solution of sodium permanganate. Other support materials, such as natural or synthetic zeolites, have lower water pick up and thus, are not capable of absorbing the same quantity of an aqueous sodium permanganate solution as can be absorbed by diatomaceous earth. In addition, some conventional, high absorbing support materials, such as silica gel, are more expensive than diatomaceous earth, making diatomaceous earth a more practical choice. In a preferred embodiment the support material also retains at least about 5 percent of water from the solubilized solution and preferably from about 10 to about 45 percent. Any material which can absorb large quantities of aqueous sodium permanganate solution and is inexpensive qualifies as the preferred support for the sodium permanganate solution.



Torej. Njihova resitev je patentirana v ZDA leta 2004.

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